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 Celtic are strictly small time

Don’t be deceived. Home crowds of around 56,000 do not mean you are a big club. I mean, if Celtic were truly one of Britain’s largest football clubs they’d have prospective managers knocking the chairman’s door down for the opportunity to replace Gordon Strachan wouldn’t they?

The truth is Celtic are facing the humiliating prospect of being rejected by every single manager on their initial short list.

David Moyes was unsurprisingly the first name on everybody’s lips at Celtic Park but the Toffees boss swatted away their interest quicker than a Kevin Pietersen on drive, instantly declaring his non-interest in leaving the Premier League’s fifth best club for a return to the wilderness of Scottish football.

Next up was Owen Coyle. Yes, he’d just been promoted with Burnley but the guy is a notoriously huge Hoops fan. It was nailed on that he’d be tempted away from the far less salubrious surroundings of Turf Moor for the glamour of the Auld Firm. Er, actually no. Not only was Coyle reluctant to give up on the chance to manage in the Premier League, but Burnley also offered him more cash than Celtic wanted to pay him.

Next up is Tony Mowbray, who has just been relegated with West Bromwich Albion. The former Hibs boss impressed everyone in helping the Baggies to reach the top flight but seemed all too reluctant to switch his ultra-positive tactics against the big boys, tarnishing his reputation in the process. Undeterred, Celtic would love to have him but despite the prospect of away days at Peterborough United and Doncaster Rovers next term Mowbray is reported to have told friends he’d need a lot of persuasion to quit WBA for life in the uninspired SPL with Celtic. The £1.5million compensation package that Celtic would need to fork out has also put them off to be fair.

Other candidates appear to be Roy Keane (who has only just joined Ipswich Town) and Swansea’s emerging young manager Roberto Martinez. It’s fair to say that Keano would likely snub the six figure a year salary Celtic are only believed to be willing to pay, while Martinez (who isn’t fancied by Hoops fans) is clearly holding out for the soon-to-be-vacant managers job at Wigan Athletic instead. Yes, that’s Wigan Athletic.

This episode really has highlighted the huge gulf that’s now developed between the Premier League and the SPL. Financially Scotland’s biggest clubs are behind some of the Championship’s star turns, while the appeal of playing in the domestic league appears to be lower than ever for players and managers alike.

Celtic will get a big name boss I’m sure. But it will be someone well down their list, who is likely just to be desperate to get back into the game.

That will be David O’Leary then…

 

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by AdrianClarke | Tuesday 2 June 2009 5:36am
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by puma sale on 2010-05-20 11:46:50

Just wait and see "James Molloy", and also Adrian Clarke, the author of the above article. You both might have to make a few apologies if one of the candidates you say has "turned us down" is eventually appointed as the new Celtic manager.

No-one has turned down the post anyway, as the post is only offered to the person who impresses the board the most and no-one would be able to do that unless they wanted the job anyway. There have been no shortage of applications either, so again no need for us to go after anyone anyway.


by Space Ace on 2009-06-06 14:32:16

Looks like Martinez is choosing the mighty Wigan over Losers Bheast FC.

Ireland's Shame are now the laughing stock of Britain.

Why don't Bheast FC go after that Father Ted bloke? He has all the right "Celtic-Minded" credentials. Irish, Catholic..........and a bit stupid.


by James Molloy, 10 Meadow Close on 2009-06-03 03:46:20

If Celtic (or Rangers for that matter) are so small and unimportant, why are we continually reminded by football fans down south of the fact? It's an obsession among English football fans.

Can't put my finger on it. Anyone help?


by Terry O'Neill on 2009-06-02 14:19:29

Why would I need to prove or disprove anything other than the subject on discussion? It's not me who's deflecting on to other topics, away from what is written in the original article, it's yourself who's doing that.


by Space Ace on 2009-06-02 13:49:32

Notice you've been unable to disprove any of it though Space Face. Truth hurts doesn't it Bhoy?

Ireland's Shame Indeed.


by James Molloy, 10 Meadow Close on 2009-06-02 13:09:27

“No as big as you”, you'd be better concentrating on your own lack of schooling. That should be "criticising", spelt with an "s" and not a "z" as it was in your message.

If you're happy to accept that Rangers are not as big as the top sides in the Championship and the EPL, then that's your call, but don't expect other fans to do so as well. I would describe big clubs not in the sense of financial payments made by their own league, but by the success and status they have in both their own domestic leagues and also in European competition and in this regard, Celtic have a far higher status than most of the EPL and the Championship. Just because some EPL and Championship clubs receive more money from their own leagues than Celtic doesn't mean a great deal at all when it comes to what happens on the field. Football is still about achieving success on the field and even though finances do help in this regard, without this success on the field then ultimately it doesn't mean much at all, apart from some sort of bragging rights about who has the biggest wage bill.

Anyway, I see your other half, "James Molloy, has started spamming about child abuse, thus proving my point about spamming just to have a go at Celtic, with no real concern for the topic being discussed.


by Space Ace on 2009-06-02 12:12:29

And a wee reminder of why the word "Celtic" is spat not spoken by all decent people in Scotland. No wonder they're now known as "Ireland's Shame":

From the award winning Daily Record investigation led by Chief Crime Reporter and Celtic supporter Anna Smith. Her team were given a Reporter of the Year Award for uncovering the scandal.

Smith and her team were also commended for their work by Judges Chairman Lord McCluskey. He said: "It demonstrated excellent, in-depth investigative journalism, which exposed the Celtic Boys' Club sex abuse scandal and those involved who abused their position." Lord McCluskey is Celtic supporter.

Daily Record (Glasgow, Scotland); 13th November 1998 (Editorial)

FOR MORE than 30 years the shadow of sexual abuse has hung over Celtic Football Club. From the boardroom to the dressing room, it was murmured that Celtic Boys' Club boss Jim Torbett was molesting young stars.

To a man, the Celtic board did nothing to expose the pervert and the dreadful scandal.

If ever a story had been hushed up it was this one. The shameful silence only helped the man who preyed on the teenage hopefuls, knowing they would be too afraid to reveal the truth.


Daily Record (Glasgow, Scotland); 13th November 1998 (Report)

Hugh was made chairman of Celtic Boys' Club after Celtic FC manager Jock Stein kicked out Torbett amid complaints of abuse. He said: "Jock said to me to keep its name clean."

As more parents complained to Hugh about sex abuse, he informed Celtic vice- chairman Kevin Kelly, on advice from Jock Stein. He said Kelly, who had just been given a plum job at Torbett's Trophy Centre, promised to investigate and the claims were reported to the Boys' Club committee.
But minutes from that meeting have vanished. Hugh claims he finally quit after a row with Kelly over the abuse claims.


Daily Record (Glasgow, Scotland); 7th November 1998

JOCK Stein and the Celtic board covered up allegations made against Boys' Club founder Jim Torbett, it was claimed yesterday.

But when the claims subsequently surfaced, Celtic manager Stein and the directors were anxious to keep the image of the club clean and nothing more was done about them.

According to Mr Stein, he literally put his foot up his backside and kicked him out. It was all covered up by Celtic as to why.

He told how he took the allegations against Torbett to the Celtic board and Stein and even told the then vice-chairman, Kevin Kelly, about them at a meeting in his car.

Although there were people who spoke to me I couldn't go to the police without actual proof of the allegations. When I joined as chairman, I was told by Jock Stein to keep the name of Celtic Football Club clean at all times.


by James Molloy, 10 Meadow Close on 2009-06-02 11:13:59

Well done space cadet, your lack of schooling is clearly showing.

WE KNOW he is criticizing the SPL which also contains Rangers but it does not bother us in the slightest, WE KNOW we are not as big as clubs in the EPL, we accept it, you bheasts don't and can't and it's fun to watch the cyber meltdowns in full effect.


by No as big as you on 2009-06-02 11:06:42

Space Head, no, I didn't say 200,000 were in Manchester. The publications listed beside each quote did. That was your clue.

I've put a few more down for you (below). Get someone to read them to you. I notice you didn't contest any of the other figures. It's hard to argue with FACTS, isn't it? What about those average 7,000 figures in the 50's and 60's eh? Another Bheastly lie bites the dust.

Daily Record (Keith McLeod) 16th May 2008

It struck me police had badly misjudged numbers of fans. There seemed to be double the anticipated 100,000.


The Sun 16th May 2008

200,000 Gers fans – double the number expected – had marched on Manchester.


Manchester Evening News 16th May 2008

An estimated 200,000 Scottish supporters had turned the streets into a sea of blue


The Sun (English edition) 16th May 2008

200,000 Rangers fans descended on the city, where the Glasgow giants took on Zenti St. Petersburg.


Evening Express 16th May 2008

200,000 Rangers fans invaded the city


Evening Times 16th May 2008

They had laid plans to accommodate 100,000 fans, with contingencies to deal with another 25,000. But there were 75,000 more than that, and Manchester just burst at its seams



The Scotsman 16th May 2008

200,000 Rangers fans who travelled to watch the UEFA Cup Final in Manchester….


Sports.Setanta.com 16th May 2008

200,000 Rangers fans descended on Manchester


Daily Telegraph 16th May 2006

There were around 200,000 Rangers fans in the city yesterday


www.bloomberg.com 15th May 2008

200,000 supporters of Rangers were in Manchester yesterday


www.rte.ie/sport 15th May 2008

around 200,000 (Rangers fans) in the city yesterday


Scotsman 17th May 2008

THE crowds of up to 200,000 Rangers fans who travelled to watch the Uefa Cup final in Manchester



news.bbc.co.uk 16th May 2008

200,000 fans converged on Manchester before the game



sports.setanta.com 16th May 2008

in the region of 200,000 Rangers fans descended upon Manchester



The Independent 16th May 2008

200,000 Rangers fans packed into Manchester on Wednesday afternoon.



www.manchesterconfidential.com 16th May 2008

200,000 Rangers fans turned the city into a sea of blue prior to the Rangers match against Russian side Zenit St Petersburg at the City of Manchester Stadium.



Evening Times 16th May 2008

estimates put the number of Rangers fans in Manchester as close on 200,000.



www.viewlondon.co.uk 16th May 2008

200,000 Rangers supporters in the city



Blackpool Gazette 18th May 2008

200,000 Scottish fans descended on the North West for the game, played at the City of Manchester stadium


Oldham Chronicle 15th May 2008

200,000 fans descended on Manchester for Rangers UEFA Cup final clash with Zenit St Petersburg but only 13000 had tickets for the match at Eastlands



Manchester Evening News 16th May 2008

200,000 Rangers fans had mingled with the 14000 from Russia in balmy summer sun

200,000 Scottish supporters had turned the streets into a sea of blue


by James Molloy, 10 Meadow Close on 2009-06-02 10:54:22

No one has been offered the job yet? Aye right ye are son. Coyle and Moyes have both been sounded out and both declined. It appears that even bheast supporters want nothing to with the horrible 1/3 of Glasgow.


by William on 2009-06-02 10:49:10

How sad is this poster, "James Molloy"? They are so desperate for attention, they're reduced to spamming a comments section over and over again with all sorts of barely connected topics, just because the original article happens to have a go at his rival club! The article is also criticising the attraction of the SPL, which when I last looked was a league which Rangers also belong to as well.

You say that there was 200,000 in Manchester? The Manchester Calculator gets another airing! Surely it was all those trouble making Chelsea and Celtic fans who made up half the support that Rangers took to Manchester anyway, or so some would have you believe!

In answer to the original, fairly ill informed and condescending article. No-one has turned down the Celtic manager's job for the very good reason that no-one has been offered the job as yet!


by Space Ace on 2009-06-02 10:45:27

Mate, a WORLD RECORD travelling support of 200,000 put all arguments about who are the big club in Glasgow firmly to bed. The argument, if their ever was one, is over.

Everyone in Scotland has always known Champions Rangers are the countries biggest supported club. It grated so much with the Bheasts, their insecurity forced them to start their long list of Celtic-Minded lies (the term Celtic-Minded means "Catholic bigot" according to former Bheast FC Chairman Fergus McCann).

Bob Crampsey (former season ticket holder at The Bheast Stadium) said this in the Evening Times of 14th March 2001 “I confirm that the list of attendances you submit for Celtic Park in the period 1958-64 (too numerous to reproduce here) are accurate and, indeed, crowds at Parkhead hovered around the 7000 mark for run-of-the-mill matches." In other words, 7,000 was their usual attendance.

Indeed throughout history The Rangers have ALWAYS had a larger following than Celtic. Lest we forget season 1993/94 when their average crowd was a paltry 22,759 (Rangers averaged 43358). Does anyone have any idea where the additional 36,000 “faithful” followers have come from? And where were they in 1994?

Goint back to the original article, I can see Bheasts rueing the day they chased Strachan from Bheast Stadium for the crime of not being "Celtic minded" enough and of being a Protestant who once said "I have no desire to be Irish. I'm happy to be Scottish". Wearing the poppy on Remembrance Sunday was the final straw. The don't like expressions of Britishness, The Bheasts.


by James Molloy, 10 Meadow Close on 2009-06-02 10:12:21

James Molloy

It is a wonderful testament to Rangers FC's fans that they KNOW they are the biggest supported club in Scotland but do not go shouting it from the rooftops unlike some others that can be mentioned.

Since 2001/2002 Rangers have taken more supporters to domestic away games 6 times out of the 8 seasons.

We took 20,000 to 25,000 to Barcelona with not one bit of trouble while they were lucky to take 10,000.

That my friends is the FACTS


by No as big as you on 2009-06-02 09:55:04

Oops! Don't tell anyone!

Sunday Express 29th July 2007


“Celts are Fire-d”

American tour organisers have told Celtic they aren't a big enough attraction in the States.

The hoops drew 1-1 last week against Chicago Fire, but the crowd of 15,719 disappointed the hosts, especially as it was boosted only by a late rush for 4,000 tickets after it was confirmed Mexican legend Cuauthmoc Blanco would make his debut for Fire.

Chicago general manager John Guppy said; "I'm disappointed Celtic didn't have a greater draw. Forget about Blanco I really thought it would be a sold-out event even without him."



by James Molloy, 10 Meadow Close on 2009-06-02 09:36:29

And lets not forget the one they hate being mentioned. 4,956 turned out for a Bheast FC home match against Dundee on 24 April 1984 (Scottish League Records). So the next time the Bheast in your life starts spouting his lies, be sure to quote him the FACTS and watch him squirm.

And now for the Greatest Bheastie Bhoy Lie Of Them All. “We had 80,000 in Seville”. Isn’t it amazing how this figure, plucked from the air, has become accepted by the underclass and their press apologists? Back to The Bheasts Achilles heal. FACTS. The Chief of police in Seville estimated the figure at 45-55,000. The official UEFA figure was given as 58,000. Ach well, let’s add on a wee bit just to make it sound good. Why let 20-odd thousand get in the way of another good Bheastie lie? Their need to be loved shows them for the inadequate’s they undoubtedly are. They are not normal people.


by James Molloy, 10 Meadow Close on 2009-06-02 09:30:55

And to the author of the article, don't be fooled by their 58,000 lie. As Gordon Waddell said in last weeks Sunday Mail "how come we've regularly seen 15,000 empty dollops of green plastic pepper the view at Parkhead this season?"

Greatest Fans in the World? Yes, in their own deluded, insecure minds. They have a "love me, love me" fixation.

Back to the deluded Bheast Peter Liewell. When Bheast FC signed Nakamura, he was at pains to tell any fool who would listen of "the potential for £billions in commercial spin-offs from Japan".

After the Japanes had been with Bheast FC for a year they decided to go there and play a match against Yokohama F. Marinos. The match was attended by 26,940 fans. Yokohama's average attendance is 27,950. Their stadium capacity is 72,600.

Bheast eh? Legends in their own minds.


by James Molloy, 10 Meadow Close on 2009-06-02 09:25:12

How could we forget Chief Bheast Peter Liewell’s ridiculous assertion when interviewed at Glasgow Airport a few summers ago “Bheast FC have a million fans in North America”. That was the same Bheast FC who played Chelsea a few days later at the 70,000 capacity Seattle Seahawks Stadium in front of 30,504 “bemused locals” and who subsequently played Liverpool in front of a crowd of 24,271 at Rentschler Field (capacity 40,000).

Lawell is another in a long line of Bheasts who is happy to perpetuate the myth than anyone who has ever stood on a four-leaf-clover is a dyed in the wool Bheast FC fan, whilst conveniently forgetting that the majority of so-called “Irish Americans” are in fact Protestants of Ulster-Scots descent (Source: USA National Opinion Research Center).

As I say, they're the second biggest club in Glasgow, and boy do they know it.


by James Molloy, 10 Meadow Close on 2009-06-02 09:14:58

You have to laugh at the deluded Bheast who claims Bheastie Fitba Club are "amoung (sic) the top 5 biggest clubs in the world". No wonder their fans are the most despised in Britain with their IRA support, their delusions of grandeur and their need to be loved.

Bheast FC are not even the biggest club in Glasgow Bheastie Bhoy. Try these quotes for size:

Unlike smaller, inferior clubs, we don't need to tell lies about our crowds and our pull - we just get on with it and PROVE it.

“The greatest peacetime mobilisation Britain has seen”

Tim Rich, Daily Telegraph 15th May 2008

“Manchester's world record breaking UEFA cup party”

Manchester Evening News 16th May 2008

“A travelling support of 200,000 – probably the biggest in the history of football.”

Daily Record 16th May 2008

Evening Times 15th May 2008

200,000 fans were in the city for the match

Daily Record (Editorial) 16th May 2008

In the run up to the club’s biggest match in 36 years, it is estimated FIVE PER CENT of the population left Scotland. That’s a travelling support of 200,000 – probably the biggest in the history of football.




by James Molloy, Grimoldby on 2009-06-02 09:09:09

Celtic are in the top 5 clubs in the world - dear oh dear! Where do you start with the Septic fans need to be loved? Ambulance chasing and the "love me, love me" attitude that prevails amongst Ireland's shame, is truly cringeworthy.

Embarressed by nothing, offended by everything, that's ra Sellik way.


by William on 2009-06-02 09:09:03

Adrian,

May I congratulate you on an excellent article. There are very few journalists out there prepared to tell the truth and the whole truth - particularly when it is regarding the cesspit of of anti-British hatred that is Celtic FC.


I have some advice for you though, please take out additional window insurance as the bheasts from Celtic Park do not take kindly to criticism - justified or otherwise - and are infamous for venting their hatred through acts of willful sectarianism.

More power to your elbow, Sir.

The truth will out...


by Phil fae Donegal on 2009-06-02 08:56:30

The comments that this article have attracted sum up the article itself, I'm afraid. Absolute pish. Celtic have approached no-one, so quite how Owen Coyle et al are supposed to have knocked them back I find strange. Please find some quotes which advise otherwise, then try sell that as fact or indeed 'news'. Celtic are amoung the top 5 biggest clubs in the world and their worldwide following is testament to that. Sky TV have subsidised the EPL for the last decade, once that money dries up I will be laughing into my Celtic season ticket watching any English team outside Man Utd struggling to compete in Europe, getting knocked out by both Celtic AND Rangers; while they drop like flies into administration. You lot have short memories, as Liverpool, Leeds and Blackburn will attest.


by chris stetz on 2009-06-02 08:54:13

Correct William. Fans of losers Celtic are off the rails these days since Chamopions Rangers recalimed what id rightly theirs. Not only did they attacke female Hearts fans in the street last week, they were fighting amongst themselves and indeed stabbing each other. All because of the realisation that they will always play second fiddle to Double-Winners Rangers.


by James Molloy, Grimoldby on 2009-06-02 08:38:59

What a great article, think you've hit the nail on the head there Adrian well done


by Mark on 2009-06-02 08:37:57

These Bheastly Septic fans are very easily upset. Indeed I can feel their anti English racism peeking out of most of their posts. However they've had a very tough week recently and are obviously in great pain.

Which is nice.


by William on 2009-06-02 08:18:11

One point that a lot of folk are missing. A court of law proved conclusively that Celtic Football Club, their board of directors and their manager at the time Jock Stein covered up the heinous crimes of a p&edophile employed by the club, in what has become known as The Greatest Sporting Scandal Of All Time.

Add to that 30 years of the Bheast who follow them supporting IRA child murderers and I'd imagine there are a lot of decent people out there who want to put their name to this shameful organisation. And who could blame them.


by James Molloy on 2009-06-02 08:14:37

Decent article which will have the MOPE in full MOPE mode.

He\\\'s not Sellick-minded but Paul Lambert has been mentioned as a possible for the managers job, with Danny McGrain as his interpreter.


by Jinky the Junkie on 2009-06-02 08:12:48

TV revenue junkies


by denis on 2009-06-02 08:06:00

Typical arrogance from the TV revenue junkies


by denis on 2009-06-02 08:04:57

Adrian,
Sorry my friend,you don't know what you are on about re the great sellik.Don't you know that they are a far superior teams to Rangers (c)SamarASS.?

Also, according the the great Scottish press corps,Wee Chesney is the manager of the year on the basis of him winning one trophy.


by WUGGLES on 2009-06-02 08:04:29

Typical arrogant outlook from down south, imagine the EPL without TV revenue


by denis on 2009-06-02 08:02:56

I feel for Adrian, it is quite obvious TGFITW,(c) THEM, will now make a target of his windows and maybe even him.

It's what their good at.


by No as big as you on 2009-06-02 07:59:58

Haha,are you applying for a job in the Scottish media by any chance?

Oh,and its good to see the Rearrangers fans showing their usual class,from Barca to Manchester,generation to generation the shame goes on.


by tim on 2009-06-02 07:59:28

would you have us believe ur burnleys , west broms are bigger than the old firm or say an ajax or psv ,because of your over inflated english league you have managed to destroy football,and when the SKY falls on your head ill be there laughing as will the rest of europe


by rick on 2009-06-02 07:59:17

I heard about Martinez going to celtic in April and have the betting slip to prove it so you can rule out your list of candidates he is and was the no 1 choice all the talk about Moyes , Coyle and Mowbray was a smokescreen the reason for the delay in announcing the fact was Gordon Strachan resigns on the Monday takes the rankers off the back page after winning the league, announce interested in Martinez on the following Monday takes the rankers off the back page after winning the cup.Martinez has all the attributes to be a great manager and all the doubting celtic supporters out there have a read at his autobiography and this man knows how he wants football played the celtic way.


by gourock67 on 2009-06-02 07:59:17

another tedious "journalist" with another tedious piece of journalism. you'd have thought that Barcelona would have wakened some people up to the fact that there is more to football than the EPL. sadly not. condescending to the point of nausea.writing something in a blog doesn't make it fact, but some people seem to think that because it's "printed" it must be true. sad man with nothing better to do than invent "non-stories". 1 out of 10 - must try harder.


by Alberto on 2009-06-02 07:58:22

Good to see the 'sellick minded' coming on here and implode.

The big bad article writer is slagging ra sellick off - BOOHOO dry your eyes.

MOPES one and all.


by No as big as you on 2009-06-02 07:57:02

This must be a wind up to get more Celtic & Rangers fans to visit this site - it is the first I have been here.

There is one huge point missing from your arguement -- money.

As has been mentioned Barnsley, with a population of 70,000 will get £60M from the EPL. That is approx £850 for every man, woman and child in the town - double the price of Celtic's basic season ticket. We have been working under these conditions for many years now and when GS left he has rebuilt the team and managed to wipe out our debt of £34M. I believe that this is excellent, if we keep going like this what type of team will we have in 4 years time?

But of course, this is small time because we are not plunging ourselves into debt to buy the next big player - no Celtic have made it clear that they are signing emerging talent that they hope to improve because we can't match the money in the EPL. But if we played in the EPL and earned £60M a year for a few years do you think our team would be at the same level it it now?

Yes, the EPL has more money the the SPL, you are the greatest ever!!!


by Joe on 2009-06-02 07:56:26

Adrian

I would suggest you seek a professional double glazer. These bheasty Bhoys are infamous for attacking the homes of anyone who tells the truth about their horrid little club. Why not investigate the support for terrorism, henious crimes commited and covered up, anti British racism and the hooliganism which follows this lot wherever they go.
They truly are Ireland\\\'s shame and most Scots feel nothing but revulsion for this club.


by William on 2009-06-02 07:53:57

Adrian Clarke - who??? I can't believe I wasted 2 whole minutes of my life on that pile of garbage. What a shoddy piece of journalism indeed.


by Nicholas on 2009-06-02 07:53:03


by don67 on 2009-06-02 07:49:10

Adrian clarke never heard of you as you are a nobody trying to make a name for yourself. Celtic have no debt and thats without the sky money that keeps the EPL affloat. Try getting out more.


by Johnbhoy on 2009-06-02 07:48:27

this is the lowest form of journalism. write an article just to get a reaction.

Martinez has just said he would jump at the chance to move to Celtic so your article is already proven wrong.

Oh and to say 'Tony Mowbrays friend said something is another example of shocking work on your part.

I dont understand why people like you are allowed to wrotr articles. You are clearly not very good at your job.

shame on you


by Daniel on 2009-06-02 07:47:09

Adrian

You have to get with it Sir. Septic fans cannot be spoken about in any shape or form in Scotland without the serially offended going into meltdown. They are now immune from any form of criticism, regardless of their behaviour. Likewise this odious club and directors - untouchables. We in Scotland now have a saying about Ireland\\\'s shame (Septic)

\\\"Embarrassed by nothing, offended by everything\\\"


by William on 2009-06-02 07:39:42

So, let me just have a moment to take all this in... what you're saying is that the SPL is.... not as good as the premiership? You, my friend, are a visionary....


by Neil on 2009-06-02 07:39:28

Hmmmm . sellic supporters offended? There's a novelty. Most of the comments above though are correct. Both Rangers and sellick would do extremely well in the EPL if they were to get a share of the Sky pot. Burnley are reported to be getting up to £60m in their first season in the EPL. We could win the Champions League and not recieve that, so it really is no surprise that Burnley can outbid sellick for a manager.
It is also true that sellick have almost as much a history, almost as much tradition, almost as big a fan-base and have been almost as successful as the Rangers, which places them in the top three bigges clubs in Britain!
One thing that is inaccurate above though is that"sellick can only beat what is in front of them". The truth is that, at the moment, they can't beat what is in front of them - that is why they lost the SPL and were knocked out of the cottish Cup - who by I wonder? Oh, aye, those "nonentities" St Mirren.
Anyway, nice to see sellick supporters being offended by other people rather than the Rangers ths time.


by Sharpayrbear on 2009-06-02 07:28:30


by John Paul on 2009-06-02 07:20:12

"Martinez is clearly holding out for the soon-to-be-vacant managers job at Wigan Athletic instead"

Don't know your sources on that one, but he has been on record saying he'd like to come to Celtic, citing it as one of the biggest jobs in European football.

Poor journalism all round, perhaps next season you will be demoted and have to cover games in "less salubrious surroundings"


by Michael on 2009-06-02 07:06:58

small time comment from a small time journo.As has been mentioned in numerous comments above being in debt up to ur oxters & in hoc to the banks as well as fully dependnt on Sky funding does not make u big time.If Sky deal folds 95% EPL would be in administration.If EPL so great why do they run scared of admitting top SPL clubs which surely would increase revenue base a la Gartsides proposals.Do some research before next inane comments & at least crete the illusion that u are a better journalist than this piece would suggest.


by g cush on 2009-06-02 06:56:38

Akin to the richest nations in the western world scoffing at Ethiopians. These natives are so poor - haw haw.


by TheLogos on 2009-06-02 06:55:06

Yes. A highly condescending article based on facts...if you believe the sun, the mirror, the star and other "credible" tabloids. Yes again - the SPL is a poor product by comparison to the self-proclaimed "Greatest league in the world". A league that has produced a total of 2, yes 2, teams that have won the Champions league since it was re-vamped in the early 90's. Celtic are fishing in a specific pool for both players and managers these days but we have what your likes of Chelsea and the rest of the clubs outwith the top 6 in the EPL - Prestige, history, a world-wide brand name and a certain appeal. We compare quite well to wigan, sunderland and the like. But we are limited owing to a lack of TV money, image etc but not as undesirable as your author would suggest.


by John Paul on 2009-06-02 06:45:16

A poor report by an unknown, and undeserved of a reply.


by Big Mike on 2009-06-02 06:42:57

I have to assume that this article is just a wind up! As per previous comments there are only a few teams in the EPL who can stand alongside Celtic in terms of world-wide appeal, support and history, and yes that is despite Celtic playing in a poor league for the last 25 years. Just having a lot of money (Chelsea) does not make a club massive and as has previously been mentioned who has come out and said I was offered, and turned down the Celtic manager's job - no-one! You really need to get your facts right before putting out such sub-standard rubbish...


by Sehakey64 on 2009-06-02 06:41:21

A typically crass and uninteligent piece of non story. Celtic are and have always been a world premiere attraction despite being lodged with nonentities such as St Mirren and Hamilton-not their choice. They play in a league which is not highly regarded but until a new European League is formed,that is their lot. Massive club,massive history and a fan base only Man Utd can compete with.The author should please his editor with better-I hope.


by Eddie Murray on 2009-06-02 06:41:15

Small time like yourself? I have never heard of you and stopped reading once i realised you have not got a clue. I think i managed 2 lines.


by frankie on 2009-06-02 06:26:02

It never ceases to amaze me a journalist's ability to take a smattering of rumour and supposition, twist it to suit and attempt to wind people up under the guise of debate. Celtic are going through a recruitment process, full stop. No-one has been offered the job and only Moyes has categorically ruled himself out. Every other comment has been what you would expect a manager with any sense of decorum to say to a press pack. The relative size of Celtic compared to the league they play in is enormous, but they have a good reputation in Europe both as a club and a business. It's been a few years since they won the Champions cup, but half of the "big four" in England have NEVER won it. They are well run with a secure future, unlike 70% of The Premiership, for whom the bubble must surely burst someday soon. Celtic will get the man they want and he'll be at a big club with a proud history, competing in Europe every year. And the author knows it.


by Stevie McC on 2009-06-02 06:22:59

Interesting but somewhat pointless article Adrian.

Celtic are a huge club with a worldwide following, fine heritage and host great expectations annually both domestically and on the European stage. You're certainly correct in the financial gulf between Celtic and any team in the EPL or Championship for that matter. The market place that Celtic operate in is not as rich as that afforded by both those leagues. However, Celtic must be one of the few clubs with such low debt, a factor that will help maintain the club to compete in a difficult financial climate. Despite the gulf in finances it certainly hasn't stopped the club competing against teams such as Blackburn Rovers, Liverpool and Manchaester United on a European level in recent years.

As for Mowbray, Coyle and Moyes, how can they reject Celtic when no official approach has been made for them? All are fine managers and even if there were official approaches made I'm sure they would have just reason to stay at their current clubs, both out of loyalty and to continue the work they have only just started to undertake, in Mowbray and Coyles case. To date, the only official approach has been to Swansea for Robert Martinez. By all accounts a young and up-and-coming Manager. Can an unknown manage a team like Celtic and fulfill fans expections? Let's ask Pep Guardiola?

It's never over 'til the fat lady sings, and I don't think she's even found her song sheet yet. Let's not all deal in speculation until we see happens, eh?

And please don't mention the David O'Leary name!!! I turned a whiter shade of pale and almost choked on my coffee!! ;-)


by Baw's On The Slates on 2009-06-02 06:17:56

a very poor article indeed. your attempt is very condescending and inaccurate. i dont know if that was the purpose of it, but it shows lack of knowledge on your part and i think youve been narrow minded in the researching of your material. too much speculation and i as a Celtic fan would love to see Martinez at Celtic park.where did you get your facts from?


by Gerry on 2009-06-02 06:16:34

Oh, the arrogance of the English! I can't wait for financial meltdown to hit the EPL, a league which incidentally has been a one-horse race for three years and flattering to deceive by being propped up by foreign players.

If Celtic was in the EPL, it wouldn't be long before we were ramming "strictly small time" down your throat.


by Tony Mactire on 2009-06-02 06:08:02

i think it's you that shouldn't be deceived by what celtic football is. on a global scale they are massive far bigger than all of the championship and most of the premiership and of course the league isn't great however Celtic can only beat what's in front of them. i think your opinions come from someone who has only a snapshot perception on celtic. i think you should look more into celtic and what it's all about then maybe your opinions will be more balanced. however the comments you have made are your opinions at this time and that's fine.


by gary gibson on 2009-06-02 06:06:53

Why oh why do people like you insist on commenting on pure speculation?Do you have special information directly from CELTIC or do you get your info from the daily rags?CELTIC have approached ONE club and ONE club only,when CELTIC get their man they will let us all know,A big named expensive name is not always the best choice,and as for the BIG CLUB inference,CELTIC may be in a smaller league with only a 60,000 crowd,eat your hearts out premier league giants,but world wide the CELTIC family is huge,why do you think every club in the premier league love to get CELTIC for their testimonials?Celtic may be a big fish in a small pool in spl up in cold bonny
scotland but worldwide they are huge,ps tell me who the next boss will be please


by Des Reid on 2009-06-02 06:04:21

It's "Old Firm," the only Auld used in relationship to Celtic is Bertie.

The rest doesn't deserve comment.


by frankjohnstone on 2009-06-02 06:00:36

Not so much Celtic small time as the EPL eating up the game. The sooner UEFA\FIFA slap down england's bloated and debt ridden clubs the better - for the sake of world football.

The size of a club shouldnt be determine by the TV package it can scavage on because of the league it happens to be in. Wigan et al dont get sky money for being wigan, but because they share the same stage as Man Utd and Liverpool etc.
The size of a club is determined by its history, traditions, crowds and success - thats why Celtic is and always will be a Huge club.


by Kieron on 2009-06-02 05:58:55

I guess your article like many journalists is to upset readers and therefore to provoke a reaction. To state that Celtic are a "Strictly small time club" is not only highly innacurate but disrespectful to the English premiership. After all for all of England's great players and great teams...who had to show them how to win the European Cup first - that would be Celtic, the small time club. If you compare the great Chelsea anhd Manchester United teams and label them as "Big time teams" then think again! Their debts run into hundreds of millions, where Celtic have merely a few hundred thousand debt. A viable business model. All it needs is for SKY to pull the plug on English football and the leagues will implode. So in sumary, for a highly successful team to buy players and managers within their means, is more a sign of a "Big time successful team" to oppose your condesending view of The Bhoys. Maybe you should do more research before writing any more articles?


by Eamon on 2009-06-02 05:58:22

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